The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

The author of "Don't Just Sit There, DO NOTHING: Healing, Chilling, and Living with the Tao Te Ching" goes head to head with Spartan Race CEO and Founder Joe De Sena.  Joe's answer to everything is do more, and do it sooner. Just get it done.  Today he sits down with Jessie Kanzer to talk about the Tao Te Ching, her book and why she says sometimes it's best to do nothing.


More about Jessie Kanzer

Her website

Her book


Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families”


The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place 

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Producer – Marion Abrams,

Host: Joe De Sena


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