The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Yancy: There may come a day when I can't run anymore, but I can still do it right now. So I do it. I run just about everywhere I go. 

Joe Gray: But ultimately too, I need to stay in shape because I want to beat my son for a few more years. He's slowly catching up.

Today, Yancy and Joseph Gray talk about finding the spark to run, having an activity to do until you physically can’t anymore after a long life, and using it to better your life and for those around you. Today, you’ll learn about:

How to push yourself in a way that brings you gratification like nothing else 
Getting lost in the magical feeling of the trail
One day there will be a day you can’t run anymore, enjoy physical things while you can

Joseph Gray is one of the most accomplished professional trail and mountain runners on the planet. He is a 9-Time World CHAMPION, 31-time USA National team member and 2016 & 2019 World Mountain Running Champion, the American record holder at the Mount Washington Road Race, 2012 XTERRA Trail Run World Championships co-winner, and he is a 16-Time USA National Champion. 

Follow Joe:

Facebook -

Twitter - @joegeezi

Instagram - @joegeezi


Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: 

-Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell

-Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp

-Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT



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Producer: Lake Watters

Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp

Sr Producer: Marion Abrams

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