The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

As an infant boat refugee he nearly died of dysentery, Kien Vuu arrived in the U.S. with his parents with no money. Overcoming poverty and racism, he became a “successful” physician. Vuu's new book "Thrive State" is a blueprint for optimal health, longevity and peak performance.


He speaks with Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan Race, about the 7 things you can do to influence the expression of your DNA and increase longevity.  They also talk about resilience, that national crisis in health, and Kien's immigration story.



Kien’s book “Thrive State”

Kien Vuu MD on Instagram

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Joe De Sena on Instagram



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Producer – Marion Abrams,

Host: Joe De Sena

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