The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

“We were made to do hard things,” is Katie Wells family motto. Her popular website “Wellness Mama" features simple answers for healthier families. Mama to six children, she has found ways to bring lessons from the workplace to the management of her home. She systematizes her household (spreadsheets are one of her “love languages”). All this to empower her children- who by the way, have to start their own business before being given a cell phone or car! Joe De Sena and the Spartan Up team really learned a lot in this one and as Katie says, “if you want to change the trajectory of society… HELP THE MOMS!”

Systematize your house
Siloing: everything has a time & a place
Raise adults not children: identify & align common goals
Recognize the workflow & natural consequences
Cold water helps with singleness of focus
Define long-term priorities & core objectives
Creating “white space” for kids creativity


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0:00 Intro with Colonel Nye, Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Guest host Lonnie Mayne
1:45 Academics as a family culture
3:00 Walking across the country & meeting her husband
4:00 How she is raising her six children as entrepreneurs
5:00 Starting an incubator in her home: a 12-year-olds podcast
6:00 Getting really sick
7:30 Uniting a community of mothers
9:15 The core concerns of moms
10:15 Systematizing the house
11:45 TRAIL TALK with Luis Escobar & Charlie Engle!
13:00 Interview continues: Finland with Four Sigmatic in ice water
14:30 Kids as employees?
15:45 Managing & ownership in the household
17:45 A new app concept … The Spartan Mama
18:25 Defining long-term priorities
19:45 Pole vaulting- a sport her kids can do together
20:45 The Colonel, Dr. Johnny, The Seed Huntress & Guest Lonnie Mayne discuss lessons learned

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Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc.
Hosts: Joe De Sena, Sefra Alexandra, Col. Nye, Johnny Waite & Guest host Lonnie Mayne
Synopsis – Sefra Alexandra
Production Assistant - Andrea Hagarty

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