Time to Escape the Comfort Zone | Michael Easter

In this hard-hitting episode, bestselling author Michael Easter joins Joe De Sena to discuss the

dangers of our addiction to comfort in the modern world. 

 

They explore how technologies like social media and junk food use the same psychological tricks

as slot machines to hijack our brains. Easter reveals the "scarcity loop" that makes these activities so addictive. They also debate controversial solutions like taxing junk food and mandatory military service. 

 

This thought-provoking discussion will make you rethink everything you thought you knew about comfort - and maybe inspire you to get a little uncomfortable yourself!

 

Highlights:

00:00 Intro

01:18 Michael Easter’s background

05:02 Lessons learned from skiing

06:27 Parenting mistakes and the danger of technology

09:44 The casino laboratory and a 3-part behavior loop

13:35 The negative consequences of casino games and phones

14:58 Snacking and junk food industry

17:02 Challenging things will make you thrive

20:37 Overeating and managing food

25:26 The power of phones and what to do

28:09 Mandatory military service and recruiting

30:53 Three things everybody should do daily

32:56 How to find Michael?