The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

“You know, I mentioned, when you move with other people, you trust them more and you like them more. There’s something about moving with other people and in synchrony with them that you just project a lot of good onto them,” says Kelly McGonigal, PhD.

Kelly McGonigal is an award-winning Stanford lecturer, health psychologist, author, and public speaker. We finish our conversation with part 3, focusing on gaining or learning compassion. In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • How to develop the willingness to take care of yourself


  • How to become a friend and mentor to yourself


  • How to find what you need in this moment to move forward


  • Fostering community through movement


If you enjoyed our conversation, make sure to check out Kelly’s new book, The Joy of Movement


Connect with Kelly on social:

Instagram - @kellymariemcgonigal

Twitter - @kellymcgonigal

Website -

Books -


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-Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell

-Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp

-Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT


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Producer: Lake Watters

Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp

Sr Producer: Marion Abrams


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