The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Legendary ultra-runner Mike Wardian is back on Spartan Up! Last time he had just broken the fastest 50K on a treadmill while on the Spartan Cruise. He holds the record for the fastest time for 7 marathons on 7 continents in 7 days; fastest marathon and 50K on an indoor 200-meter track; fastest Marathon as Spider-Man & Elvis; fastest Leadville 100 mile and Pike's Peak marathon double and ran the grueling Marathon des Sables-appx 150 miles in the Sahara desert in Morocco more than once. This is a great interview that digs into the mindset necessary to push through these remarkable challenges. Mike says he went to depths he never thought possible and says once you “come out the other side of that, your not the same person and that’s special.” Enjoy 


  1. Design your training to be more difficult then the challenge you are facing
  2. Obstacle immunity informs every facet of life
  3. There is always something positive you can get from any experience 
  4. Persevere & overcome 
  5. If at first you don’t succeed- try again & dig deep 
  6. There’s always a way 
  7. Always keep growing 
  8. Learn lessons from adversity 
  9. Don’t silo your experiences 
  10. Get out there & run 
  11. Do something hard everyday




1:05 Interview begins with tales of the Spartan Cruise

2:20 Clip of Spartan Cruise 

3:15 Round two & breaking a world record

4:50 Running the major marathons 

6:00 Embarking on a 50 miler 


10:30 A once in a lifetime experience- twice 

11:30 World Marathon Challenge 

13:20 break

14:30 Training regiment- making marathons hard
16:30 overcoming a challenge 

19:00 Making it on the podium of Marathon Des Sables 

20:00 Coming back to work to a hijacked ship 

22:30 Insights from difficult situations 

24:00 Running across Israel

26:45 Joe gives a recap of the interview 

29:30 Do something hard everyday & tell us about it! 


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Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc.

Hosts: Joe De Sena & Sefra Alexandra -Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye were off training for an ultra

Synopsis – Sefra Alexandra

Production Assistant - Andrea Hagarty


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