The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

“It’s a snowstorm and they had already run 10 miles in the morning, they had skied all day, black double diamonds. And they were going out, it was dark, freezing cold, and they were going out for another 10 mile run! And Prefontaine was like, ‘Ah, Frank, maybe we should just do 5,’ and Frank’s comment was, ‘No one in the world is training harder than us right now,’” says Mike Sandrock, author of Running Tough and Running With Legends.


This week’s classic episode dives into what creates the toughest people and the Spartan mindset. In this episode you’ll learn…


  • How to change your frame of reference in life so the challenges that pop up aren’t so tough
  • Importance of self-discipline, self-reinforcement, and creating your own choices
  • Creating “Positive Pressure”
  • Training for good luck
  • Inspiration is hard work, some people aren’t meant for the comfortable life

If you want to watch the full episodes,


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Producer: Lake Watters

Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena

Co-Hosts: Sefra Alexandra, Col. Nye

Sr Producer: Marion Abrams


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