The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Mind Pump host and fitness/wellness guru Sal Di Stefano sits down with Spartan Race founder Joe DeSena to talk about the state of the fitness industry and what you can do today to be stronger and healthier.

You may be fast at something, but are you efficient? Repetitive frequency of proper skills builds effective health and wellness regiments - getting you to your maximum potential. This week we have Sal Di Stefano back on the podcast, discussing the platforms of “new media” and their role in shifting the “big ship” of fitness.



  1. Podcasts are like the new “Guttenberg Printing Press,” causing a communication revolution.
  2. Fitness Vs. Wellness:  address mental, physical and spiritual to solve the US health epidemic.
  3. Most chronic disease can be solved by changes in lifestyle and attitude.
  4. Fitness and health are empowering.
  5. The internal “locus” of control is knowing you can do something for yourself to improve your situation.
  6. Speak your message in a way that empowers people.
  7. If you do one form of exercise, Sal says make it resistance training.
  8. Weights are the most modifiable form of resistance training.
  9. Change bad patterns by repeating good patterns frequently and often.
  10. Frequency is important when it comes to movement and health.


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00:00 intro

00:58 FitAID

1:30 Interview begins

2:00 Spartan Tea: “He of the Iron”

4:30 Mind Pump comes to Spartan

5:30 Podcasts as “new media”

7:20 Why “old media” is dying

8:00 An overlying purpose of fitness

9:00 Wellness as a solution to the health epidemic

9:40 Spartan women

10:45 Chronic disease and the need to change your lifestyle

11:00 Internal “locus” of control

11:25 Empowerment through speech

11:45 shifting the big ship of fitness

12:25 FitAID break

13:50 Interview continues

14:00 Recommendations for getting started in exercise

15:20 Significance of resistance training

16:30 Weights as a modifiable form of resistance training

18:00 Joe’s non-negotiable exercises

19:40 The human body and efficiency

21:00 Pattern interrupt

22:00 Frequency in movement and health

23:30 Problems with training to fatigue

26:22 Sefra, Angel, Johnny & Joe discuss the interview

30:00 FitAID close


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Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc.

Hosts: Joe De Sena with Johnny Waite, Sefra Alexandra, Col. Tim Nye  and guest host Angel Sanz.

Synopsis – Sefra Alexandra

Production Assistant - Andrea Hagarty


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